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After 15 years of practice and a lot of creativety, there is a lot one ends up doing. Ffor me, I did not just stick to one path, but started to incorperate other practices as I went along. Below are some of my posts about such experiences and experiments.

On my experiences and experimentation with Enochian

Since there were a couple of requests for me to elaborate on what I
have done with (more like how I have warped <g>) the Enochian
system, I will post some details.

I started off magic in a GD paradigm with DMK's book, then joined a
GD order. So I was stuck with the GD ideas at first... So I
practiced Enochian GD style for a couple of years. I then went
online to discuss Enochian and 2 wonderful folks (St. Parker and
David R. Jones) told me that the GD Enochian is actually a bit
different than is in the Dee/Kelly diaries! I had just spent a
month painting my Enochian tablets to perfection GD style (there is
a photo of those on my site of those ones I made 10 yrs ago LOL),
and had been pronouncing the Enochian words and names with far too
many vowels (GD style). So it was time to re-learn it. I did. I
read A True and Faithful (boy does that one take some getting used
to), had a really good amount of teaching by very patient people,
and started to branch away from the purely GD methods. I also had
started Goetic evocation previous to this...

I did not have a magical teacher at that point, so I started asking
the Goetia beings and the Enochian Entities (EE from now on for
short) for ideas on how to do evocation and work magic. I have
found that the EE's, with me anyways, liked to teach by helping me
to experience whatever it was that they were trying to get across.
They always have appeared quite strongly for me, and tended to do
the flip my reality upside down for 1/2 hour while they explained
things LOL, not always in words either. For example if I was asking
about healing, I would feel the energy they were trying to teach me
about waft at me and through me. As far as communication I have
more often gotten impressions than actual words, but at times actual
words as well. With the impressions they would flood in, then I
would interpret them into my own words. Fortunately

I have taken a lot of evocation notes over the years (unfortunately
my years worth of magical diaries are for the most part in storage
in another city, ARG!) There was actually a lot of info I was given
when I started skrying that made no sense to me at the time, but I
wrote it down anyways as I figured I would understand it later. So
I am really wanting to go over the old notes :)

When skrying during Enochian evocation, I get anything from just
seeing the entity I am working with, to seeing a complete landscape,
to experiencing their energy and/or their world. I have also done
evocations where I did not use a skrying mirror, just a triangle and
smoke. In those cases I would either get a REALLY strong presence,
of the entity and/or see a ghost like vivid image. I have found
that the EE's appear brighter or more vivid somehow then other
beings.

Another interesting things about the EE's for me is that they tend
to show up randomly more so than any other type of being that I have
worked with. They seem to be a lot more in one's life. Helping
out, making themselves known etc.

Well with magic (and other things) I love to experiment, so I spent
several years trying different techniques as well as combining
various systems of magic. Below I have a list of quite a few of the
workings I have tried. The things listed below are workings I have
tried for extended periods of time, or at least more than 10 times.

Enochian and Vodou/Santaria
With this one most folks will think I have lost my mind probably
LOL. I had been working enochian for a number of years, then
started working with Santaria/Vodou for awhile. I did not know a
lot about the systems, but worked with the Orisha's and Loa quite a
bit, and had some truly amazing results, and I felt a good
connection with them. So I experimented with calling various Loa
AND EE's during the same working. I am not going to go into exact
details on this one though. I believe it worked. I believe the
beings from each system worked well together. And I found that
setting up the temple with one system then calling the beings of the
other worked very well, as did setting up the temple in a sort of
combo way worked well as well.

Enochian evocation done with Sex Magic
Basically doing evocation of an EE, and using sex to build the
energies in the temple. Monofocal and with partners.

Enochian evocation done with BDSM session
Used BDSM techniques with and without sex (depending on the
occasion) to both build energy and to get the skryer into a very
deep altered state. This has worked extremely well with skrying
visions! At first I was a little concerned that the EE's would be
offended or really wonder about us LOL, but they did not seem to
think any differently of it from what I could tell. If you really
want the details check out the Dark Lodge archives, I think they are
there. Or check out my site in a couple of weeks they should be up.

Enochian and GD, my version
Well everyone else seems to have written Enochian versions of the GD
rituals, so I gave it a try LOL. Mine differ a bit from the others
I think. I have also written quite a few of my own rituals that are
purely enochian. Some with pentagrams and hexagrams and some not.
Basically I have created Enochian phrases that go along with each
part of my temple setup such as the cleansing and purifying etc. I
have found this to work the best for me of any ritual I have
performed.

Outdoor Enochian cacodemon workings
For about 6 months I lived in the woods in TX very close to the land
(no cabin), well nearly, I did have food supplied a good deal of the
time in a rustic kitchen by my employer (I was working outdoors). I
was renting property off of my employer, so I had about 20 acres to
myself to do evocations in :) During this time I wanted to know
more about the cacodemons, so I was doing daily evocations of them
to ask them about themselves as well as various magical things.
Communication with them was not as clear as with the other EE's, but
still got some things back and forth. It was definitely an
interesting experience and actually went well. However when I moved
back to the west coast and did some cacodemon evocations indoors in
my temple with my Satanic friend as skryer, my life suddenly turned
upside down, lost my house etc. LOL, I have no idea if it correlated
but the timing was sure close! So I figured I best leave them alone
for a bit! It all came out for the better in the end and I learned
a lot over the next bit of time though. So worth it in the long
run, just a really odd feeling and intense experience.

Experimenting with and without the combo of a circle and triangle
With and without the long conjurations
I went by the books for years, you have to use a circle and you have
to use a triangle. So of course I had to try it without LOL. It's
not like Dee/Kelly used a circle/triangle. I did most of my EE
evocations with my skrying device on my alter and conjurations in
English or Enochian. I used the keys a lot as well. I have also
tried Dee's prayers for the work, but changed them to fit my beliefs
more. I also did quite a few enochian evocations using a circle and
triangle. A rope circle, a salt circle, a canvas circle, GD astral
circles and my Enochian method astral circles.

All methods seemed to work quite well, even the Enochian rituals I
wrote based on the LBRP/BRH etc. The specific rituals had an
amazing effect of setting the space/energy up for the working, sort
of fine tuning things.

With skryers from various systems including one Satanist
I have worked with quite a few scryers, as well as scryed on my own
multitasking, as well as skryed for others. I have found that when
I scry on my own that I sort of have to switch modes, from calling
to more receptive and perceiving. The only catch to having other's
scry for me instead of me scrying is that I feel as though I am
missing half of the experience, yes things are said in words, but
not felt as a whole concept. However, with having others scry they
perceived the beings and answers slightly differently then I do, so
it is a very interesting experience. Also, sometimes it can get
very intense and vivid when there are 2 practitioners working on an
evocation. (however personally I have found that group evocations
don't seem to work that well). With having other people as the
scryer and me as the operator they were able to fully lose
themselves in the evocation and come out with some pretty amazing
communication! I have had to psychically drag people back before
(has anyone else done this, and what on earth do you call it?). I
also tend to get more intense visions when I scry for someone else,
but tend to get more intense feelings of the entity's presence and
more manifestations (like translucent images) when I skry for myself.

With the various scryers I have worked with a Thelemite, a Satanist,
a few students, Ceremonial Magickians and one person who had never
done any magic but had done 30 some odd years of meditation.
Amazingly enough, their perceptions were similar in a number of ways!

Heptagram enochian rituals
I used pentagrams and hexagrams and unicursal hexagrams, so why not
heptagrams for the 7 planets :) Used the King and Prince names as
well as the senior names for these workings. Basic planetary
workings to bring in the influence of that particular planetary
energy then charge a talisman, light a candle etc. for the working.

Enochian Solomonic circle and triangle
I came up with an Enochian version of these 2 tools, didn't use them
much though, it was right before I moved...

Ideas for a septahedron (is there such a thing?) shaped astral
temple that relected the dayside/nightside
One of those amazing insightful visions. Did a lot of work in the
temple, it had enochian names down the sides etc. At that same time
period other people that I know that were working Enochian magic
also were working with octohedron visions or ideas.

Nightside aethyre traveling
This is the one where folks tend to worry about me LOL. Basically I
found Crowley and Kenneth Grants ideas about the Nightside tree of
life really interesting and proceeded to do a lot of my own travel
there. I then wondered about whether the Enochian aethyres also
contained a nightside. Interesting anyways :)

Shamanistic journeying into enochian realms
Astral evocation of enochian entities
Basically head off to my Enochian astral temple and do an evocation.
It is half the time just visualization though I think. It is really
hard to concentrate and really hard to not kind of float away
sometimes LOL. I got past that turning 360 degrees thing though, at
first that got confusing, was calling the directions, would get to
earth and couldn't turn to East to complete the circle without
losing the vision. This is not something I have the skill or
concentration to do very often. I just did it about 3 or 4 times.
Seemed successful, results came to be :)

The 19 day working
I did the Enochian 19 day working as mentioned in the Enochian MS.
The instructions did not seem to be exactly specific, but I worked
it out to where I felt my version was as close to the original as
possible. I also consulted with the entities. I basically used the
method out of James' book but slightly different.

Enochian talismans
Talismans with Enochian letters, charged with the help of EE,
created using Enochian rituals etc. etc. Also sigils for the
talismans created out of the great table etc.

Enochian letters and words on various objects
Enochian letters have a power about them, self explanatory.

Simple spells, chanting etc.
Same as any other system but in Enochian with Enochian rituals.
(yeah I'm getting tired of typing LOL)

A healing spell like Dee did with the bonorum with a lead disc
It worked, got a lead disc, inscribed the letters/numbers etc. on
it. Doesn't work the same way if the person has certain letters in
their name that aren't in the bonorum though LOL!

Bringing others into the enochian aethyres
Having the enochian angels help me with healing, and teach me healing
Anton LaVey's version of the calls in a few Satanic rituals
Having one of the EE's act as a tour guide through various aethyres
Vodou and Kabbalah, didn't work

49 crystals
An idea given to me by one of the EE's that I work with. Basically
the triangle for evocation (if used) made out of them.

The reverse god names
I worked a few rituals with these forces, they were easier for me to
work with then the cacodemons, however I did not come up with a lot
of uses for the work/info so I did not continue.

Abramelin experiences
I started the Abramelin operation using Enochian keys, prayers,
rituals etc. but then found as I progressed through the months that
I had to drop any system specific energies / beings that I was
working with. My Abramelin working was by the book, but not by the
Christian/Hebrew bits. I started out with Enochian and moved into
no system or religion etc.

This may seem like quite the list, but I have been at it 15 yrs or
so with daily work, so of course I was going to experiment just a
bit :)
A note on this, so I do not experiment haphazardly as something fun
to do, as it might seem by this odd long and strange list, I take my
magic work very seriously as well as my experimentation. Any
experimentation I have done if after I have worked a lot with both
systems or methods, and was worked up to gradually.



On Afro-Cuban magic combined with Enochian and Goetia


I find Frater Alistor's ideas on this interesting :) I'm not sure yet if I
agree or not. But I would definatly say there are some things that definatly
work, and many cultures seem to have incorperated them independantly of each
other as well. Of course the spirits themselves teach as well, and teach us
what works, no matter which culture we are from.

I started out with ceremonial magick GD style, thanks to Kraig's book. Joined a
GD order for a bit, and also did the Pagan thing for the nature aspect I
beleived CM was lacking. That is where I started to learn my Enochian as well.
Fortunatly I did meet a couple of very good Enochian teachers that set me
straight LOL. After about 5 yrs of CM I started to branch out more. I started
Goetia evocation to get some teachings and ideas from the entities and did
Enochian evocation as well. I have always been drawn to the Afro-Cuban
practices. As a kid I made a joke to my mother to drop me off in Haiti on her
way to the Carribean...

I started to read every Santaria and Vodou book I could find, as well as looked
into a Santaria group. I did not have a teacher or recieve an initiation into
these practices (the group just wasn't right for me), but did practice on my
own. I set up alters to my fave Orishas, did spells (that worked really well),
put out offerings (that were changed, vanished etc.) and "talked" with the
Orishas a lot to get some more info on the practice. I also have worked with
some of the Lwa. However there was far more info on the Orishas. When I first
started out with the Afro Cuban stuff I did not give up my CM practices, I just
did them seperatly. I beleived that you should not combine systems until you
know a good deal about both, so I spent a year or 2 getting to know the
Afro-Cuban stuff better before doing the combination. As far as how I started,
just drawn to it. I also quite like the Orishas/Lwa :) (btw if anyone needs
cuban cigars I would be willing to do a trade <g>).

After I felt more comfortable with the practices, and that I knew the entities
better, I started combining my practices. I started out just doing an Enochian
opening ritual that I had written then would do the usual calling of the Orishas
or Lwa with the gatekeeper first etc. I then started combining spells from
both systems to see how that would work and it seemed to go fine. What I mean
by combining spells is to call on the EE's of a specific group in charge of what
I am after, then to also ask an Orisha or Lwa for help with it, while doing the
whole cigar, blow the rum and food offerings thing. Hey the EEs like Florida
water too :)

Most of my combo rituals were Enochian based. I found that the Kabbalistic
based ones combined with Enochian produced conflicting energies, they didn't
seem to get along. So I did not bother to continue with that experiment. I did
use CM techniques, but not Hebrew names from then on when combining.

I also experimented with Goetic evocation and Afro Cuban like practices
combined. I called upon the Lwa as my protective crew instead the names of the
Kabbalistic Gods and angels. I also would ask Legba to open the gate prior to
the evocation, would sprinkle the area with Florida water, might sprinkle water
around, put out some offerings etc. That also seemed to go well much to my
surprise.

I have also done rituals and spells where I will call both types of beings (Lwa
and Goetia) to be present and help out with a certain working. This seems to
work as well, yet I have not done as much experimentation with it.

More recently I have taken up the practice of HCR (hoodoo, conjure, rootwork or
whatever you want to call working with spell powders etc.) and have gotten some
ideas from this.

Presently I do the temple setup more Afro-Cuban style. I will do the wall
washings with the sprays and mixtures, set out offerings, use Florida water
liberally (gawd homemade kicks ass!) and a good deal many other things that seem
to transfer over quite well, for my Goetia work. I also find that the Hoodoo
spell powders work really well with Goetia work, and Goetia work works quite
well with the spell powders, oils and spells etc. I have also combined the
spell powders, oils and spells with Enochian magic , entities and rituals with
good results :)

I also combine my work with the deads (which has a lot of Afro-Cuban elements in
it) with the Goetia work.

I have added enough to give some idea on what I have tried, what has worked for
me, and maybe a few ideas. There is a lot that I don't feel comfortable sharing
at this time though, as it was either taught to me by my teacher, by a demon, or
a personal method that I would like to keep to myself. Questions are more then
welcome though :)

I still have never been initiated into any Afro-Cuban tradition. (I have been
GD and Pagan initiated tho) because religion really is not my thing. I honour
many beings, however the whole religious praise and prayer thing etc. aspect
still baffles me (I was not raised in any trad) and it not something I am drawn
to.